Has Alex Surpassed Izzy's legacy?

[thorcorm]

Izzy has:
Whittaker 2x
Yoel
Poatan
Cannonier
Costa
Vettori 2x
Gastelum

Poatan has:
Adesanya
Jiri
Hill
Jan
Strickland

I think Rob twice, Cannonier and Yoel are more impressive than any of Poatan's wins, other than Adesanya ofc. Alex did do work in 2 divisions and got a second belt, which counts for something for sure, but he hasn't done enough. Before anyone says anything about "former champs" it doesn't get much weaker than Hill, Jiri, Strickland and Jan for champs lol, good fighters of course, but c'mon now

I mean - even based off your list - Poatan has beaten 5 champions...

Izzy has beaten how many?

 

[Brendan The Hybrid Schaub]

I mean - even based off your list - Poatan has beaten 5 champions...

Izzy has beaten how many?

Just because they were champions once doesn't mean they are great wins

 

[Hdfi]

Just because they were champions once doesn't mean they are great wins

bruh you have Cannonier above Jan? Not only was Jan a champion but he also defeated Cannonier when they fought.

 

[BigOlJeet]

Izzy "fighting" Yoel

Yoel is a can, the hype he gets around Sherdog is solely surrounded by his physique, nothing more.

 

[Brendan The Hybrid Schaub]

bruh you have Cannonier above Jan? Not only was Jan a champion but he also defeated Cannonier when they fought.

Jan is a real 205er, Cannonier is a natural 185er. Cannonier is on the cusp of getting a second TS in a better division, being champ doesn't magically make you better than anyone who never got the strap, especially if it's in a terrible divison like 205

 

[Barteh]

I mean - even based off your list - Poatan has beaten 5 champions...

Izzy has beaten how many?

Izzy didn't beat many champs because he was the champ for a long time. It's not rocket science here sherbro, come on.

 

[Brendan The Hybrid Schaub]

Izzy didn't beat many champs because he was the champ for a long time. It's not rocket science here sherbro, come on.

no man beating Tim Sylvia better for your resume than beating Chad Mendes, he held the friggin world championship bro!

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

Just because they were champions once doesn't mean they are great wins

Everyone's a can, even those who win the title huh?

 

[Brendan The Hybrid Schaub]

Everyone's a can, even those who win the title huh?

Jamahal hill and Sean Strickland are good, but not great fighters, wouldn't be ranked in a smaller division

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

Jamahal hill and Sean Strickland are good, but not great fighters, wouldn't be ranked in a smaller division

But they are in their actual divisions though?

 

[Brendan The Hybrid Schaub]

But they are in their actual divisions though?

yeah it was unfair of me to say that, you can't just magically scale down fighters lol, I've just noticed the skill level of fighters really drops off hard at 185 and above, with 205 being even worse, and HW being worse than 205

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

yeah it was unfair of me to say that, you can't just magically scale down fighters lol, I've just noticed the skill level of fighters really drops off hard at 185 and above, with 205 being even worse, and HW being worse than 205

I think the lower divisions (135 and above) tend to be a lot deeper and the skill level is higher. As you go up power and size can become more important, that's why you get a lot of fat dudes who do well at HW.

 

[Hdfi]

Jan is a real 205er, Cannonier is a natural 185er. Cannonier is on the cusp of getting a second TS in a better division, being champ doesn't magically make you better than anyone who never got the strap, especially if it's in a terrible divison like 205

Cannonier weighs between 210 and 215 pounds during training camp and could get up to 230 outside of it. He's not a small guy.

 

[ThunderStruck]

3-1 in combat sports, but "I beat him one time" huh?

alsl, Poatan made weight, just like Izzy so stop crying.

This is an mma website. Theyre fighting in mma.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Izzy has:
Whittaker 2x
Yoel
Poatan
Cannonier
Costa
Vettori 2x
Gastelum

Poatan has:
Adesanya
Jiri
Hill
Jan
Strickland

I think Rob twice, Cannonier and Yoel are more impressive than any of Poatan's wins, other than Adesanya ofc. Alex did do work in 2 divisions and got a second belt, which counts for something for sure, but he hasn't done enough. Before anyone says anything about "former champs" it doesn't get much weaker than Hill, Jiri, Strickland and Jan for champs lol, good fighters of course, but c'mon now

Lmao.
Yoel is an impressive win, but the guy that beat Izzy, Jan, is not?
True white belt brain.

This is an mma website. Theyre fighting in mma.

So the Izzy fan cope is now just to pretend that kickboxing never existed? lol.

 

[Brendan The Hybrid Schaub]

Lmao.
Yoel is an impressive win, but the guy that beat Izzy, Jan, is not?
True white belt brain.

So the Izzy fan cope is now just to pretend that kickboxing never existed? lol.

Jan is Poatans best win at 205, I undersold that win a bit, also I want to clarify that Alex is the greater fighter, I just hold izzy in higher regards for mma specifically, I like Alex a lot more than Adesanya too

 

[orca]

Just because they were champions once doesn't mean they are great wins

sir izzy had beaten far superior fighters than poatan
lol at jan and jiri
205 is a joke division right now

i get it jan had beaten izzy
but still 205 division is a joke

 

[Brendan The Hybrid Schaub]

sir izzy had beaten far superior fighters than poatan
lol at jan and jiri
205 is a joke division right now

i get it jan had beaten izzy
but still 205 division is a joke

yeah 185 is weak, but 205 is a wasteland

 

[13Seconds]

No in addition to not having an extended reign he hasn't cleaned out a division or proven himself against good wrestlers.

What makes Izzy unusual is that he came from kickboxing and is very good at shutting down wrestlers despite being lanky.

There's no such thing as "cleaning out a division". Not in MMA.