GSP vs. TOP 5 guys: Read this if you are new to the sport

[WalkenWouldOwn]

Shutup.

This is a completely unnecessary thread. Who do you think you're educating? 99% of the people on this site are on GSP's scrotum, and the other 1% doesn't give a shit.

[Hecubus]

GSP is a phenom.

[Mike Schwartz]

No way id GSP over-rated...no way. Best P4P...that's another thread that's been done to death. BUT GSP in amazing and I have nothing but respect from him. I'd love to see him dominate BJ again to shut up those guys for a while.

[dustinst22]

Originally Posted by Canned

I was reading the "is GSP overrated?" thread and I was amazed.

GSP has 7 victories agaisnt top 5 guys (who were considered top 5 WW when he fought them).

I'll use MMAWeekly rankings, they are not perfect but they are accurate most of the time.

Frank Trigg: Was ranked #2 WW in the world at the time. That fight was promoted as the "who is the second best WW in the world".

Sean Sherk: Was ranked #4 in the world at the time. His only loss was a decision to Matt Hughes.

BJ Penn: Was ranked #3 WW in the world behind Hughes and GSP. He had never lost the WW belt that he took from Hughes. Once again, the fight was promoted as "who's the second best WW in the world".

Matt Hughes (II): Was #1 WW in the world.

Josh Koscheck: Was #5 WW in the world. That was after his victory over Diego.

Matt Hughes (III): Was #3 WW in the world* (Serra was champ and was awarded the #1 spot)

Matt Serra: Was #1 by default (champ).


Can you name one other fighter with 7 victories over top 5 competition?

For the record, Fedor has 4:
Big Nog X 2, Cro Cop, Sylvia.

A. Silva has 3:
Franklin X 2, Hendo

Chuck? No. (other top LHW were in Pride)
Shogun? No. (he has 3: Rampage, Lil Nog, Arona)

Kid? Gomi? Saku? Go ahead, try to find another one


Then come back to Sherdog and tell us how overrated GSP is.

Any retard who thinks GSP hasn't fought top competition most likely started following MMA a week ago.

[Icefan2008]

Originally Posted by tapout189

You seriously think all the top 205s were in Pride during Chucks reign? What about Tito, Randy, Babalu...

Chuck Liddell will be champion again. His reign is not over. Well unless he has to fight Rampage.......or Keith Jardine. But Chuck Liddell is still the man. AMEN

[dustinst22]

Originally Posted by Jacare Jackson

I don't think GSP is overrated. I love the guy.

BUT

Fedor has way more than five victories over top ten comp.

Aside from youir four,

Mark Hunt was top ten (beat Mirko a year ago)
Heath Herring (second best heavyweight in Pride only to Nogueira at the time)
Kevin Randleman (also had just beat Cro Cop and was top ten at the time)

I'm sure I can come up with more, but there's your seven. I really hate raining on a GSP parade because I think he's awesome. But to say Fedor, who has beaten every good heavyweigt of the past decade, only has four wins over top ten competition is downright insulting.

I think the OP was comparing top 5 competition, not top 10.

[suntancharm]

Originally Posted by Titan416

Lets put it like this.


GSP has beaten more top 10 fighters in a row, and in his career, then any other fighter in the p4p ranking. GSP has beaten more top 5 fighters in his career, then any other fighter in the p4p ranking. The only losses GSP did have, he avenged, with some of the most overwhelmingly dominating performances in the history of Mixed Martial Arts.

He is still six years younger then Anderson Silva.

Yes, and five years younger than Fedor?

[TeamTanner]

Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz

I'd love to see him dominate BJ again to shut up those guys for a while.

You must have been watching a different fight than me and Fight Metric :

GSP-Penn


Fight Metric also scored the BJ-Machida fight 29-28 for Penn. That's why Penn is the best P4P. A LW beat one of the top LHWs in the world

Penn-Machida

[kanuks]

Originally Posted by TeamTanner

You must have been watching a different fight than me and Fight Metric :

GSP-Penn


Fight Metric also scored the BJ-Machida fight 29-28 for Penn. That's why Penn is the best P4P. A LW beat one of the top LHWs in the world

Penn-Machida

And thats why no one cares about fight metrics.

[TeamTanner]

Originally Posted by kanuks

And thats why no one cares about fight metrics.

No, actually people do care and here's why :



FightMetric is the first-ever comprehensive mixed martial arts evaluation system. The system derives its philosophy from the very essence of MMA. The genesis of competitive mixed martial arts was to separate the fighting styles and techniques that work and discard the ones that don't. As the sport has evolved, the modern mixed martial artist may have his particular strength in one style or another, but successful fighters must master each of the truly effective striking and grappling arts.

In a similar vein, the FightMetric system is designed to focus analysis only on the techniques and situations that truly matter in ending fights. By discarding cosmetically different occurrences (like measuring punches versus kicks) in favor of those factors that actually contribute to fight endings (like measuring head strikes versus body strikes), we can arrive at a clearer picture of a fighter's performance. And with that, we can open the door to a whole new method of analyzing fights and fighters; one rooted in data and demonstrated effectiveness rather than in gut feelings and bandwagon jumping.

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