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Haha Not amazing, never has been, no further issues than what I've already had for years.
Show physique and a picture of you. Most vegana look like shit unless they are juiced to the gills.
Haha Not amazing, never has been, no further issues than what I've already had for years.
There is no veggie option with anywhere near the nutrient profile of beef/salmon/eggs. It has been clear for a long time now that fat and protein are a far better base for most people than carbs.
If you want to base your diet on "morals" that's your business; but don't pretend that it is healthier and don't embarrass yourself with childish nonsense about "murder" when eating other animals is the basis of our (and all higher) species.
Are doing any physical training along with this? Martial arts or other wise...
That 16 hour fast and just yogurt for breakfast seems to have me thinking your quite low on the calorific side of things..
If you are training , how does it feel with this diet? ...are u after gainz or losing or maintaining your current physique
Recommendations are fully subjective though, if you can you can... High quality meat is exclusive and expensive and completely impractical for most...A well planned plant based diet can work that's what they said. But that's not their main recommendation, their main recommendation is a well balance high quality omnivorous diet.
The WPPB diet requires synthetic supplementation And a large variety and diversity of plants. The diet is unnatural, not practical at all. The amino acids profile of plant protein sucks and it's not even close as bioavailable as the animal based protein (what we've eating for 300,000 years) so you need to eat more , you better off just eating a bunch of Vegan protein powders.
Let's he honest here the great majority of vegans are not fucking following this strict diet. They Are still eating processed foods, desserts, pizza, donuts, candies , etc. Most vegans look either unhealthy skinny or fat. Don't the lies. Only very few follow the WPPB diet, most couldn't care less about this health
I'm maintaining i eat 180 to 200 grams of protein from real food at the end of the day. My dinners are huge and this is why I'm not hungry for hours.
I don't even lift weights. I do long walks every morning, around 7 I train either judo or BJJ and 45 min swim afterward that's it. A few functional exercises here and there
Appeal to law is retardation..Suffering is part of the world, don't like it? Then GTFO and shirt your mouth. We are a lot more efficient to kill other species without suffering than most species which make them suffer for several minutes and eat them alive.
And you know after all morality and ethics are subjective and not objective. That's why it needs to be defined by the law. We know what's animal abuse, it's outlined in the law, actually if you call me animal abuser that's defamation by definition.
Hey and by the way hundreds of thousands don't have access to plant based foods like the Inuit and others. Are they immoral for trying to survive? Or their case is different since they don't have other options? Do you must have other options like B12 pills in order to me immoral and unethical? How stupid is that? This is why the law will NEVER EVER use your fucking ridiculous definition of animal abuse
I'm good thanks, not one for showing my bod to dudes on the internet.Show physique and a picture of you. Most vegana look like shit unless they are juiced to the gills.
Recommendations are fully subjective though, if you can you can... High quality meat is exclusive and expensive and completely impractical for most...
You need like B12, the rest is not much different to what anyone would likely be suggested on any diet.. Vit D etc ... Appeal to nature means nothing.
Not true the caloric density of plants is plenty, I've put on (fat)weight and muscle since dropping meat and dairy... Unless your aim is to look like Lesnar it's a piece of piss..
Processed food is also circumstantially good and bad, I don't know what the majority of Vegans are doing with regards to this.
Processed doesn't always = badThe calorific density of most vegetarian protein sources is the problem; if you're trying to eat 200g of protein within a sensible calories limit its difficult without lean meats/fish. Vegetarians who eat eggs/yoghurt/cheese/whey protein etc can of course do it (and cheaply as well) but veganism is far more restrictive. A lot of the "fake meat" stuff is very processed, and eating large amounts of soy products isn't good for your test levels.
Processed doesn't always equal bad yes, and I also don't think completely "clean" eating is a good thing anyway. But if you take your health and nutrition seriously, swapping good quality meat/fish/eggs (which have far better nutrient profiles) for processed vegan "meat" is dumb.Processed doesn't always = bad
and human Soy issues have been debunked loads of times.
Maybe because most "food scientists" either work for those selling us cheap food, run studies with pitifully small amounts of subjects or extrapolate from epidemiological studies that are in effect merely anecdotal data on a large scale. Oh and are literally proved wrong every few years about almost everything.Damn, we've got some bro scientists in this forum!
If he doesn't give a shit, neither do I...Is really no one going to comment on the fact this dude said he doesn't shit
So basically you made a thread to admit that you shun the scientific method and don't care about evidence, expertise or rational debate; only about your personal impressions, intuitions and experiences which are purely subjective, carry no clear methodology, have no way of accounting for perception errors or confounding factors, or assessing long term risks/advantages and are prone to bias and not a source of anything approaching actual knowledge.
Which is all well and good. The true question is why should anyone give a fuck about having a conversation with such a person or try to convince them of anything, lol.
The problem is that financial interests are influencing what gets labeled 'science'. I've told my story here multiple times already, but 6 doctors couldn't give me hope in battling my autoimmune disorder. It took some random dude from Greece who I met in the comments section of a YouTube video to steer me to aip diet and my disease has been in remission ever since, over 5 years pain free now after being bedridden with pain. Given that, anecdotal evidence and personal experience means more to me then whatever bullshit they're currently trying to sell wrapped as 'medical science'.So basically you made a thread to admit that you shun the scientific method and don't care about evidence, expertise or rational debate; only about your personal impressions, intuitions and experiences which are purely subjective, carry no clear methodology, have no way of accounting for perception errors or confounding factors, or assessing long term risks/advantages and are prone to bias and not a source of anything approaching actual knowledge.
Which is all well and good. The true question is why should anyone give a fuck about having a conversation with such a person or try to convince them of anything, lol.
The problem is that financial interests are influencing what gets labeled 'science'.
I've told my story here multiple times already, but 6 doctors couldn't give me hope in battling my autoimmune disorder. It took some random dude from Greece who I met in the comments section of a YouTube video to steer me to aip diet and my disease has been in remission ever since, over 5 years pain free now after being bedridden with pain. Given that, anecdotal evidence and personal experience means more to me then whatever bullshit they're currently trying to sell wrapped as 'medical science'.
I used to follow that kind of mainstream research that told me to eat a low fat diet mainly consisting of grains like bread and pastas 5-6 times a day and ultimately, it nearly killed me. I imagine that the remedy prescribed by all 6 of the doctors who treated me, immunosuppressants and antibiotics, was also backed by 'well respected' peer reviewed research.Then the solution would be to consult multiple peer reviewed sources in respected journals and/or different experts and check their funding and credentials, and see what their reasoning is and whether it seems to make sense, not to dismiss all science. To think all or even most science has some nefarious intent behind it is just fictional conspiratorial thinking. There's nothing wrong with conducting personal experiments with different diets either (or with anything else).
I'm sure a lot of people have negative experiences with doctors, just like many have positive experiences. The problem with anecdotal evidence is that it provides no controls for anything and is subject to 100% of your own biases. That doesn't mean it should be discounted, sometimes it's all there is, and everyone is different, and subjective feelings matter. But we should be aware of its limitations, just like we try to be aware of the limitations of different studies. They're certainly fallible and it's hard to draw conclusions since it's not possible to control for every factor in something like nutrition in the same way you can do in a physics lab.
That's the reason people work hard to study stuff very carefully in a variety of ways and get it reviewed by people from different backgrounds. The conclusion that because it seems to you like something worked (when we have no ways of checking if something else would've worked equally well, or if it was something else that worked), that you should then dismiss any evidence or data in favor of YouTube comments seems to be pretty irrational to me. I'd be careful about adopting such a stance about most topics.
For example, some people are overweight their whole lives and don't have major health issues. So, with your logic, these people should simply disregard any suggestion of increased risk of any disease and just go ahead with their personal experience. On average, on a large sample size, this will lead to poor results and biased statements.
Anyway, I just don't get the motivation behind making threads like these when someone has already entrenched themselves in an admittedly arbitrary position and don't care about what anyone has to say. I get that the thread title is half joking/trolling, but who cares about debating someone like that?