News Payton Talbott vs Yanis Ghemmouri set for UFC 303 on June 29th

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TalGOAT gonna smash this jabroni

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Talbott seems to be inconsistent. One fight he looks like a future title contender, the one before it he looks average. He needs more experience and to be worked up slowly. He's young. The more cage time, the better.
 
they really gave bro a fight against someone 0-1 in the ufc
 
Can’t wait til he moves up to 145 and fights goat lopes :cool:
 
Weird matchmaking considering Yanis probably aint all bad but has zero name value and is a significant stepdown from Saaiman who had achieved a prospect status.
Talbot could possibly be -1000 fav here come fight night and against not a bad fighter.
 
They really don't like Ghemmouri
Short notice fight vs Gomis one weight class up, then a fight scheduled with Vinicius Oliveira and now Payton Talbott. At least he can find some good strikers in France to train with
Good opportunity for Talbott to have a highlight reel on a Conor card
 
So much for avoiding the O'Malley comparisons. They're even giving him the O'Malley treatment lmao. He's going to keep crushing nobodies and then he'll fight a top 5 guy out of nowhere as a title eliminator.
 
Talbott seems to be inconsistent. One fight he looks like a future title contender, the one before it he looks average. He needs more experience and to be worked up slowly. He's young. The more cage time, the better.

I don't think people are ready for the talent that exists, that's rising up right now, particularly in the lower weights. Austin Bashi was a standout highschool wrestler but his plan since like 12 was to be an MMA fighter, he's 22 and has his BJJ black belt because he started at like 8 years old, he was 12-13 years old at Muay Thai seminars and training out of MMA gyms. He's 11-0 and at 22 and last year turned down the contender series to get more experience....No matter how talented you are, BARRING YOU HAVE THE TIME, it's important to get experience and as many looks and hours of sparring and different training methods in etc as possible so that when the time comes you can distill it in the most optimal way for your individual development. Otherwise you really risk reaching a certain point and then just becoming a somewhat irreconcilable bust and maybe you reach top 20 level, or even contention etc. Which is insanely respectable but a lot of dudes never get there despite being much more talented because they didn't develop in imperative ways relative to their games.

Talbott seems talented but I actually think at least part of it is that Saaiman wasn't developed enough for his own talent and the level of competition he began facing. I also think he probably will be a bust story that never fixes his flaws, he's another dude who was doing kickboxing and kyokushin at like 12 and by 15 amateur MMA bouts. For him to have such negative wrestling this far in and such bad striking defensive should be insanely concerning. Whole Saaiman was winning, looked fast, offensively sharp and fairly well rounded...he was just getting hit a lot even in his contender series bout, was struggling physically in grappling exchanges vs guys who aren't known to be strong or wrestle at all. If Saaiman spent 5-8 more fights in a feeder promotion after the regional south African scene, maybe spending some camps and or time between camps training abroad and taking in perspective and others knowledge and skills too...he could be a completely different story.

I'm ranting, not directly at you bud. A lot of crazy talented guys in their early twenties who began training series at 12-15 and competing in the amateurs as juniors are rising up now though. Payton is just one of many talented Bantams, just because he looked insane vs Cameron Saaiman doesn't mean he won't turn around and get exposed and fall off the tracks just like Saaiman. We're kinda entering the boxing phase of MMA now where it's clear you need to develop fighters. A lot of these 8-1 kids getting signed to the contender series aren't always going to shake out, sometimes it's detrimental. But, if you're young, you should be active...no reason a 22 year old with real promise shouldn't be fighting 4+ times a year while healthy to accumulate competitive experience quicker. Bo Nickal for sure has this backwards.
 
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