Mighty mouse thinks Anthony Joshua beats Francis ngannou in mma

[Naoya#1]

If Hardy can make it to the UFC, someone with asthma and physically done and the only reason why he picked MMA was out of boredom and old as shit for other sports ...

You really wanna tell me that the most athletic MMA HW and talented since Brock Lesnar/Cro Cop wouldnt ... ?

Joshuas hairline alone carrys him hard.

 

[YourBoss]

Yeah, the age wouldn't matter much, IMO.

Aspinall firstly trains regularly with Fury and Verhoeven, he isn't getting KO'd that fast and the quickness with which he would take Joshua down and sub him might actually do the old adage of "don't blink" justice.

if joshua punches with ufc gloves aspinall is dead by the first right hand he lands. which would take 30 seconds. he would have to get the fight to the ground or work with kicks right away. of course he would be a favourit, but the longer joshua is allowed to prepare for this fight the closer the odds would be. give him 3 years and he would be the favourite.

 

[Iroh]

if joshua punches with ufc gloves aspinall is dead by the first right hand he lands. which would take 30 seconds. he would have to get the fight to the ground or work with kicks right away. of course he would be a favourit, but the longer joshua is allowed to prepare for this fight the closer the odds would be. give him 3 years and he would be the favourite.

Nope. He might land quickly in a boxing match, still doubtful he'd land a KO blow in 30 seconds, but he wouldn't in MMA. He'd be extremely tentative because he would be completely out of his depth.

3 years would do nothing. Aspinall will also be that much better in his overall MMA game 3 years down the road, and it doesn't matter that Joshua is really athletic, he can't, at 34, pick up the skills he would need to put up enough resistance for a guy like Aspinall. And it's not just a matter of learning to check leg kicks and TDD. Even his boxing would need to have a serious overhaul, because a lot of boxing techniques and tendencies that have been baked into joshua since early age, don't work in MMA.

There is a whole lot more to MMA than just being athletic.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

give him 3 years and he would be the favourite.

AJ would have a punchers chance right off the bat, but I definitely wouldnt say he'd become the favourite in 3 years. Aspinall has a decades worth of pro MMA experience, and started BJJ at 12. Hes also a very good athlete in his own right, is around the same size as AJ and is 4 years younger. I wouldnt expect Joshua to be a better MMA fighter at 37 with 3 years experience than Aspinall would be at 33 with another 3 years of experience on top of the massive experience advantage he already has.

 

[Takes_Two_To_Tango]

Let me clarify in what I said earlier.

If Joshua went to MMA in just a 3-4 months from now to fight Ngannou in MMA. I give him a bout 20% chance to win.

If Joshua trained MMA for about 6 months to a year, I'd say a 40% chance.

 

[Hyperborea]

English is not his first language but he doesn’t sound dumb at all. I assume that say it due to his african accent but Francis is actually intelligent and he knows what he want. If he was dumb he wouldn't have stood up against Dana white. And he'd be still under UFC slave contract.

I say he’s dumb because he fights like an idiot.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

He was a wrestler first and foremost. Calling any display of grappling panic wrestling is childish and ridiculous.

Randy's base is wrestling. Yes. But, again, he can mix it up with anybody. He used to box in the Army. Best dirty boxer in MMA.

 

[Stagliano]

I say he’s dumb because he fights like an idiot.

Lol in your other post you were talking about his interviews to "explain" why he was dumb and now you're talking about his fighting style.

The only time when he fought like an "idiot" was the first fight against Stipe. But in the others fights he followed the game plan. Against AJ he just got outclassed and Francis had, logically, nothing for that last.

 

[Hyperborea]

Lol in your other post you were talking about his interviews to "explain" why he was dumb and now you're talking about his fighting style.

The only time when he fought like an "idiot" was the first fight against Stipe. But in the others fights he followed the game plan. Against AJ he just got outclassed and Francis had, logically, nothing for that last.

The entire premise of the post was that he was a limited fighter because he was stupid. I used his interviews as evidence. Africans aren’t particularly known for their intelligence.

 

[Simple Southerner]

Since a hater mod moved this thread i guess it dies here

 

[JudoJabs]

If Hardy can make it to the UFC, someone with asthma and physically done and the only reason why he picked MMA was out of boredom and old as shit for other sports ...

You really wanna tell me that the most athletic MMA HW and talented since Brock Lesnar/Cro Cop wouldnt ... ?

Joshuas hairline alone carrys him hard.

No man. AJ has to train TDD for 2 years, get a black belt in BJJ, go to Thailand for 4 years, start working with the US wrestling team for 10 years and also get a black belt in Tae Kwon Do (just in case!)


Only then can he get on the level of Gane and Hardy.

 

[Mack Yancy]

fat Derrick Lewis became a title contender
gimmicky Jailton top 5
Ngannou with no amateur experience in any MA became champ
now they are working on hyping up this sloppy cuban HW to be the next big thing

...but AJ, whos a huge HW, legit elite athlete, world class specialist, wouldnt be able to hang? Please. UFC could turn any decently athletic HW into a title contender with smart match making.

The HW division is a joke, AJ would be fighting for a title after a year of MMA focused training.

AJ is a specialist striker, just like Cyril Gane. Except Cyril has more grappling ability and can kick.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

AJ is a specialist striker, just like Cyril Gane. Except Cyril has more grappling ability and can kick.

AJ is a striking specialist with his hands. Gane is a pure striker that doesn't actually specialize in any particular type of strike.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Yeah, the age wouldn't matter much, IMO.

Aspinall firstly trains regularly with Fury and Verhoeven, he isn't getting KO'd that fast and the quickness with which he would take Joshua down and sub him might actually do the old adage of "don't blink" justice.

Aspinall trains with Fury. Aspinall also trains with Verhoeven who is trained in boxing by Peter Fury. If only Tyson Fury hadn't already ducked AJ this would be impressive.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

if joshua punches with ufc gloves aspinall is dead by the first right hand he lands. which would take 30 seconds. he would have to get the fight to the ground or work with kicks right away. of course he would be a favourit, but the longer joshua is allowed to prepare for this fight the closer the odds would be. give him 3 years and he would be the favourite.

If Aspinall can't get him down immediately he's fucked. That's right.

 

[Iroh]

Aspinall trains with Fury. Aspinall also trains with Verhoeven who is trained in boxing by Peter Fury. If only Tyson Fury hadn't already ducked AJ this would be impressive.

Yeah, I said the same in a different thread. Aspinall would likely do a good bit better than Ngannou in a boxing match with Joshua. He'd still likely get KTFO though. But I'd figure he'd last longer. He really would need to learn to keep that chin tucked. I would assume he would at least work on that.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Yeah, I said the same in a different thread. Aspinall would likely do a good bit better than Ngannou in a boxing match with Joshua. He'd still likely get KTFO though. But I'd figure he'd last longer. He really would need to learn to keep that chin tucked. I would assume he would though.

Ngannou only lasted 5 minutes. Even if Aspinall lasted a couple minutes longer, which I'm not sure he would, that's not much to brag about. Ngannou was KO'd because he has zero head movement.

 

[Iroh]

Ngannou only lasted 5 minutes. Even if Aspinall lasted a couple minutes longer, which I'm not sure he would, that's not much to brag about. Ngannou was KO'd because he has zero head movement.

Yeah, but Joshua wouldn't last 2 minutes with Aspinall in MMA. Aspinall is way, way, way better at boxing, than Joshua is at MMA.

Nganou was KO'd because he was extremely predictable and tried to basically employ the same things he did against Fury. Also he's way too plotting, which is not the best thing if people fear getting close to you because of your power, but Joshua is not at all afraid to approach a slow plodder. Not that Ngannou is always slow, when he explodes he can be very fast. But he isn't exactly light on his feet. Joshua is light on his feet. But so is Aspinall. That alone would change the dynamics drastically between the two match ups.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Yeah, but Joshua wouldn't last 2 minutes with Aspinall in MMA. Aspinall is way, way, way better at boxing, than Joshua is at MMA.

Nganou was KO'd because he was extremely predictable and tried to basically employ the same things he did against Fury. Also he's way too plotting, which is not the best thing if people fear getting close to you because of your power, but Joshua is not at all afraid to approach a slow plotter. Not that Ngannou is always slow, when he explodes he can be very fast. But he isn't exactly light on his feet. Joshua is light on his feet. But so is Aspinall. That alone would change the dynamics drastically between the two match ups.

For Aspinall he'll need to get him down immediately. Otherwise he risks getting chin checked very quickly. Did you watch the Mighty Mouse video in the OP? He thinks Joshua could walk right in and beat Ngannou. While Aspinall is much more well rounded, that's the type of threat AJ is already. If given enough time to train MMA Joshua could likely beat him. He's the better athlete which also helps.

 

[JudoJabs]

AJ is a specialist striker, just like Cyril Gane. Except Cyril has more grappling ability and can kick.

From what I read, Cryil Gane didn’t start training for Muay Thai until he was 25 and it was his first foray into combat sports.

He’s not a lifer at this.

Making this some type of unimaginable hill for Joshua to climb is laughable.