Yes, he will be in it. Where the bar is and how its been set means that he goes in, if Pulver is in, then Chris is. And I am old school but lets be honest Pulver had a couple of fights in UFC, he wasn't even in UFC that long
Aye... Cut a Testarossa clean in half.Didn't this goofball die street racing? That being said the HoF is somewhat arbitrary at times and Chris had a pretty solid career, so why not?
So justify Forrest, Rashad (no title defense wins for either) and Bisping (only title defense win against a 46-year old on a losing streak). What's the critiera for HoF? By current standards, Chris should get in easily.No.
Silva, Machida, and Belfort were awesome wins but his career went downhill fast after that.
So justify Forrest, Rashad (no title defense wins for either) and Bisping (only title defense win against a 46-year old on a losing streak). What's the critiera for HoF? By current standards, Chris should get in easily.
Forrest has wins over Shogun and Rampage shortly after they came to the UFC from Pride. I don't think the case is much stronger for Rashad. Machida deserves more than either one IMO, with one title defense at LHW and he fought for the MW belt (gave Weidman a tough 5-round fight). He has wins over Rashad, Bader, Mousasi and many others and should've won against Rampage and Davis IMO. But based on Rashad, Forest and Bisping alone, Weidman should be in the HoF.You can make a case for Rashad as he has a ton of wins over big names on his resume.
But yeah, looking back Forrest isn't really HOF worthy either. I think they let him in because he won the first TUF and the legendary war with Bonnar.
Given the standard, The Chris is destined for HOF too, just think the bar needs to be set a little higher.
Too late. They have several guys in the HOF who did worse than Chris in their prime. FACT
Serra lost several times and was highlight reeled by Shonie Carter in his prime
Anderson Silva is one of the GOATs and was subbed by 2 japanese cans in his prime
Bisping was brutally KO'ed by Vitor and Henderson in his prime
Plenty of chance.
But based on Rashad, Forest and Bisping alone, Weidman should be in the HoF.
Age is a pretty arbitrary way to judge these things. All of the Pride HWs everyone raves about here starting falling off the wagon in the 32-34 year age range, too. Granted, Weidman doesn't have a really long resume, but he had wins over a young Hall, Maia and Munoz who was on a 4-fight win streak and almost certain title shot before Chris KO'd him. He also beat a still game Machida who was coming off a win against Mousasi along with beating Anderson twice. And he finished Gastelum shortly before Kelvin gave Israel his toughest challenge to date (this was before the Jan and Poatan fights). His best wins are certainly up there with some other HoF guys. And unfortunately, we don't get to decide when the "time for a change is." We can only go by who they've chosen in the past for HoF. Maybe one day they'll announce more objective criteria, but that hasn't happened yet.The time for a change is now, we've moved past the point where guys should get in because of their historical significance. TUF got all those guys you named in because they were pivotal to somewhat mainstream acceptance of MMA. Weidman doesn't have the historical significance, took three straight horrific losses at the age of 32, 33, and 34 and in all likely hood will be best remembered as the dude who Anderson broke his leg against within a decade.
Look, I don't disagree with ANY of what you wrote.I don't think that's too odd, considering the amount of exposure his merch brought to the sport. They just need separate categories, like other leagues have. Have like a business/promoter wing, or something.
As for Weidman, once you start doing the HOF thing with a very limited talent pool in a very young sport to draw from and put in there, guys like Weidman will make it in by default. There are probably already guys in there with even less notoriety than being the guy to end Silva's streak.
I mean if Matt Serra got inducted into the UFC HOF for beating GSP whom is one of the GOATs then yes ofc Weidman should be in it one day the day he retires, Serra was just a 1 time UFC Champ but yes he was TUF winner and was the 1st guy in UFC history to win both TUF and a UFC title but Weidman was the first to beat Silva in the UFC, became x4 UFC MW champ and dedicated his life to the sport, won his fights, set records, so yes he should be in it one day.I believe so.
What he did to Anderson Silva and stopped his massive long streak reign in defending the belt, I believe was nothing short of amazing.
Hope he retires as well. He paid his dues and more.